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 Post subject: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:14 am 

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How much do you normally charge for a kin?
What is the price u charge for a foam cut out, Shaded, really detailed shaded?

Just wondering incase I get inquires this year as I am going to have 10-15 pumpkins on display.

Do you price differently for a real vs. a foam kin?

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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:28 pm 

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My personal option is to not carve for others unless it is a gift. I do not want my hobby to become a job...plain and simple.

When pressured I give out a ridiculous number like $500. That drive 90% of the people away.

If I were to make it a job $100 would be my minimum.

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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:37 pm 

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I'm with you Doh don't want it to feel like a job, like to give them as gifts.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:19 pm 

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Well, after this year i am definitely going to start charging more for any pumpkins i carve that aren't gifts. Up to this point I have really haven't been comfortable charging all that much for them because of all the great work i see posted here! But I have spent most of this season reading the posts and picking up different ways of doing things and have got to say i have improved so much (even from the beginning of the season till now)! I guess the best way to think about it is that if someone doesn't want to pay the price you ask then they just don't want a quality product!

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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:35 am 

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Doh wrote:
My personal option is to not carve for others unless it is a gift. I do not want my hobby to become a job...plain and simple.


That is my total philosophy. People always tell me after seeing my work, "Oh you should be selling those."

I don't want my hobby to become a pain in my rear that would not want to make me do it anymore. Also those same people are the ones that would never buy them due to how much they would actually cost when they ask me. They don't understand why it could be so much. Just the materials alone are more than what they hope to be paying for.

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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:40 am 

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I saw someone charging $40 for a small black steve jobs silhouette on Ebay and it look liked it was cut with a hacksaw. It was listed as RARE. I sold mine for $10. Did it before I even saw a pattern for it. I lost money. In my opinion, something that only can be displayed 1 month out of the year, shouldn't cost that much money, regardless of how much time was spent on it. The person that buys the steve jobs for $40 is the same person protesting greed on Wall Street, it makes no sense. There is greed at every level. Someone told me the other day I don't know how much I'm worth. When there are so many other people out there doing this better than me or that can do this themselves if they just try, $10 for steve jobs is a fair price. I didn't create the image, just cut it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:17 pm 

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Looney wrote:
Before I call you crazy :grin: Let me WELCOME you to pumpkin land!

I beg to differ with your statement that just because something is only shown/displayed during one month it shouldn't cost so much.
That is simply silly (to me anyway)

Let me just use your Steve Jobs example. You charged $10? A small kins will run you $6 minimum, and that is only if you were lucky enough to get it on sale.
So you have $6 into it so far.
What about gas? I'll just stay real cheap and say $2
Your time? Are you only charging two dollars for labor?
A Jr. High Babysitter makes minimum $5 an hour
What about materials?
What about the fact that this is a ONE of a kind pumpkin? Basically custom made? None of their friends will have these.

I'll spare you the lecture on value your self as an artist, but, I totally disagree with what you have said about $10 being acceptable for a carve.

You can also go get a Christmas tree for $10 and still have a tree, not a great tree, just a tree

Some people WANT GREAT! And GREAT isn't done cheaply.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:16 pm 

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Something that took me 10 minutes to carve and wasn't my idea and there's a pattern for it all over the place, $10 was just fine for me for that carve, especially when I really wasn't trying to sell it. Someone just wanted it. I charged $60 a pumpkin for the gameday faces last year, plus shipping. And seeing some other carves of faces, I charged too much. And they were used for 10 seconds. $300 for 10 seconds. When I think of like this, I think what a waste of money. Glad they wasted it on me, but what a waste of money. It didn't make the show $300 better. I only charged $60 for all 4 Monday Night Countdown pumpkins this year. I had my reasons.

As far as paying for great.....an amatuer could spend more time on something than an expert carver. Even if both look great, does the amatuer charge more cause it took longer or it was a farther drive to the store? NO, it's the same pumpkin. Just don't rip people off like the dude on ebay. It's only a foam pumpkin that I'm sure cost under a buck to make, and it seems everyone is copying everyone else's copyrighted stuff. So how unique/great is it really?

Not trying to bring anyone down, just giving you another perspective. If someone is going to pay what you want, by all means take it.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:45 pm 

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Looney wrote:
It is pretty hard typing a conversation and really getting what someone is saying. You can't hear a tone of voice, or how serious someone is taking something said.


I hate chat for the same reason. I'm not angry or offended, just debating. And I saw your web site looney, cool stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging for Pumpkins?
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:06 am 

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Here's my 2 Penny's.

I have tattoo's on my arm that cost me 300 + Dollars.
and they were made from tattoo flash hung on a wall.
so yes it was a pre-made stencil used.

The cost of the ink and supplies total about 25 cents.
I Paid for the Tattoo Artists time, and Skill.

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Art Painting Canvas.
Paintings are Valued by the subject, Age of the painting
And more So "WHO" Painted it.

it has nothing to do with how much the supplies cost.

Canvas/Paint - cost make no Difference.

a Picasso will cost Much more, than what Marge down the street could paint.

The Name Picasso - adds lots more to the work.

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Using Stencils/Patterns for Pumpkin Carvings.
I also Disagree on whats been Said.

you take 5 carvers and give them the same pattern.
And you have 5 carves that may look the same, but some are better than others, based on the skill of the carver.

I Also think using Stencils, also helps carvers, that Carve A lot or want large displays.
Creating the Pattern also adds tons of time to the overall carving.
and Some Just do not have the skills to create A+ Patterns.

if the Pattern or Stencil is NOT A+ the carving will not be.

Millions of Carvers use Stencils, wither their from pumpkin masters books or from some of the great websites found online. So I see no Issue what-so-ever using Patterns to Show or Sell Carvings.

It need not be a One Off, if someone in Kentucky carves one of my patterns,
why cant the same carve be found in Children's Hospital for these kids to also enjoy ?
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I'm not going to say what I was paid by NBC for the carvings I did.

But the Pumpkins alone cost over 100 dollars.
I spent 3 Days on 7 of the 9 pumpkins
I Drove to the Farm to get (3) Large Pumpkins.
Gas plus my time. (2 hours for the Drive) and 90 Miles

The (2) Shot on film took 4 hours, it played on air for about 30 seconds.

I Did get paid for my time/skill, and NBC had no issue with my price.
I Felt the Price was Fair to both of us.

They charge 10's of thousands for someone to place a banner in the stadium.
I can tell you that banner was a lot easier to create then the pumpkins I carved.

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